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Warning for those who're planning to work without a work permit this year 2018

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Sirchai

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My neighbor, a cop who also works for Immigration, is a really nice guy and sometimes has the Immigration van parked in front of his door. After the Big Joke's action where mostly colored people were arrested for working without a work permit, I decided to ask him about the plans for this year and if he'd heard anything if they check on schools.

  He smiled and said that the Immigration, the labor department, and the local police will be sent to various places to check on employees without the needed paperwork. Should anybody plan to try it without a work permit, please think about the possible way to change the title into teacher's assistant, curriculum designer, or any other fancy titles which all bypass the Khurusapha ( Teacher's Council of Thailand).

 

   I hope that you'll be fine and look forward to a much better teaching year 2018/2019. bath time


Working as a teacher's assistant might not be the first choice.



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ttompatz

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You are aware that having a WP as a TA and working as a teacher is a violation of your work permit and until the labor law is changed again, subject to a 20-100k fine?

 
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Sirchai

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ttompatz wrote:You are aware that having a WP as a TA and working as a teacher is a violation of your work permit and until the labor law is changed again, subject to a 20-100k fine?

 
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Yes, I'm aware of it. But it seems that bigger schools do not encounter problems. The labor department and the IO is okay with it. Might not be possible in all provinces.



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Hey_ewe

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I know quite a few people have work permits as an English assistant, resource person, education consultant etc. The area education office, immigration and the labour office have all signed off on it and they know full well that they are actually teaching. it's not an easy process as far as I'm aware. From what details I do know about the 'loophole' is that the word 'teacher' must not appear on any of the visa and WP paperwork. A school in Korat was raided by the labour office last year. I heard that this was because a teacher was teaching paid private classes in the school and another had opened up a private tuition school nearby. Many of the teachers there are African, so I guess that makes them a target too.

ttompatz

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If they have an excuse to bust you and someone takes the time to make a call...
Then you are screwed.

Life is good until it is not.

OR... Just do it the "right way" (as much of a pain in the ass as that is) and never have to look over your shoulder.

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Hey_ewe

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Yes, I agree. It's far better to do it the 'right way' but that's not always an easy option. The people I know have wives and kids here and are 50+ but they don't have a degree. They are good at their jobs, so schools are prepared to ask for a favour to get them the necessary paperwork. It's not as easy for them, as it might be for someone in their 20's to go home and get qualified. They could of course study online for a degree.

I personally don't think they'll have an issue with immigration or labour raiding the school and busting them as they have the a visa and work permit. There would have to be a significant problem between the school/teacher and the various enforcement offices for that to happen. I do however think that they are likely to have the loophole closed, when they decide not to issue the required paperwork when it comes time to renew. In fact, I'd say that's very likely, at some point. That would keep me up at nights.

There are also a significant number of people with a degree in a subject other than education, who have had three or more waivers. The maximum is supposed to be three. Many have chosen not to enrol on the various teaching courses available now. I can understand why, with the continually shifting sands. I was told quite specifically and firmly by the guy with white gloves at Khrusapa that I should take a course and this was my last waiver. I paid my 70k, took the course and have all my paperwork ready for my full licence. I know quite a few who have had more waivers than me, who have been granted yet another waiver. I suppose that's a little frustrating but I should have my full licence in my hands soon enough and that means some degree of security.

gungchang

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I may join the no -WP club in spite of a license. Perhaps doing outside work and never setting foot in house would provide some safety.

ttompatz

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Over 60, American, licensed teacher (even if Thai) then just work on-line.

Work part time (evenings) for 30k thb/month or full time (evenings/weekends) for 50k.
Do it in the comfort of your home and no worry about the WP.
A decent fiber optic connection will cost between 700-900 baht/month.


I've tried a few online agencies, but it was either my nationality or my age. <ayne next time bla bla bla.

Any idea where I could find an online job? Thanks in advance.

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